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Most of the information in this section was copied from the Cadillac "Master Parts List" (MPL) from 1933 and 1939. On that listing, the various body styles [ Fisher and Fleetwood combined !] are shown in two ways: (a) by style number, in ascending numerical sequence, showing the Series number in brackets, and (b) by Series number, showing the style number, body description and wheelbase. On the listing, Fleetwood-built styles are followed by the letters "(Fl.)"; in some instances, where one would expect the indication "(Fl.)", there is none, which would suggest that Fisher was involved in manufacturing some bodies in a range usually attributed to Fleetwood; for example in the group of twenty styles, from "8000" to "8090", nine of them appear to have received Fisher bodies. Silimarly in the Fisher range from 1 to 1901, seven appear to have got bodies built by Fleetwood, and one (style "168") got bodies by both coach-builders!
Body styles for Cadillac Types and Series built prior to Series 303 [La Salle] and 314 [Cadillac] are not listed; that info was gleaned, later, from other listings. For example, I have come across reference numbers for Fisher body styles as far back as 1915.
In the thirties, the Fisher styling codes sometimes were preceded by two other digits, separated or not by a hyphen. The first two numerals simply indicate the model year: "30" = 1930, "31" = 1931, "32" = 1932, etc. The final three or four digits identify the body style. Some other sources of reference include one or two more digits placed between the year and the style number, to indicate the engine configuration: "8" = V-8 engine, "12" = V-12 engine and "16" = V-16 engine; for example, Fisher styling code "32-16-178" identifies the 2-passenger coupe on the V-16 chassis for 1932.
For some unique body styles on the V-16 chassis, Fisher occasionally used a numbering system similar to that used by Fleetwood [with "LX" prefixes or suffixes]. Some examples are given later in this section. Fleetwood introduced its own coding system in the late twenties [see that section].
Here is a list of all Fisher body style identification numbers I have come across in various items of factory literature. The majority are drawn from the Cadillac Distributors' Convention program of 30-31 July and 1-2 August 1928, wherein are described the new, 1929 cars. On the opening page of that program it is stated: in the following pages we will describe the new cars of the 341B and LaS 328 series as presented at the Distributors' Convention. The program gives the general specifications of each car, including a detailed equipment list; the number assigned to each specification sheet corresponds to the number on the tag of each car; it was to be used for convenience in ordering work on or parts for any of the listed jobs. The program stated that duplicates of these cars will be available for September [1928] shipment.
As stated above, the main source used to cross-reference the various Caduillac & La Salle body styles built was Cadillac's own Master Parts List (MPL), specifically the issue dated July 1, 1933 and another from 1939. I used to believe that if a body style was listed there, then it was built for sure. However, I have had to revise my judgment based on the number of styles listed in the MPL for the 1933 Series 452-C V-16 that we know for certain were NOT built.
Some Fisher styling codes do not appear to respect a logical, numerical sequence; I have no explanation for that apparent anomaly. As you proceed you will come across some "misplaced" (?) codes, both in their logical numerical sequence and in the tables for a given Cadillac or La Salle Series:
To futher confuse the issue, Fisher AND Fleetwood BOTH used at one time styling codes with initial digits 28, 29, 30, 31, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 46, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56, 57, 60, 61, 64, 66, 67, 69, 70, 73, 74, 80, 85, 86...
The advantage of (generally) low production numbers means it is not too complicated to determine precisely which body was assigned to which chassis/engine combination
Highlighted in red, in the following tables: Styles that were built on the sixteen-cylinder Cadillac chassis
1915 [Type 51]
Style # |
Description and notes |
583 |
Limousine for 7 passengers |
601 |
Sedan (limousine?) for 7 passengers [style "601" was used again in 1929] |
602 | Landaulet coupe for 3 passengers [style "602" was used again in 1929] |
715 | Imperial sedan |
901 | Imperial [limousine with division] for 5 passengers [style "901" was used again in 1929] |
1916 [Type 53]
Style # | Description and notes |
1517 | 3-passenger Victoria |
1518 | 5/7-passenger brougham |
1519 | 7-passenger berline |
1744 | 7-passenger limousine (1916) |
1917 [Type 55]
Style # | Description and notes |
2440 | 7-passenger imperial |
2450 | 7-passenger limousine |
2460 | 5/7-passenger brougham |
2470 | Touring coupelet |
2620 | 7-passenger landaulet |
1918-1919 [Type 57]
Style # | Description and notes |
2680 | 6-passenger town limousine (1918) |
2730 | 5/7-passenger brougham, type A (1918) |
2740 | 7-passenger limousine, type A (1918) |
2750 | 4-passenger convertible Victoria, type A (1918) |
2760 | 7-passenger imperial (1918) |
2770 | 7-passenger landaulet (1918) |
2820 | Limousine, type B (1918) |
2830 | 8-passenger limousine (1919) |
2840 | 6-passenger town landaulet (1918) |
2910 | 7-passenger suburban, type A (1918) |
3040 | 4-passenger Victoria coupe, Type B, metal back, rear quarter windows (1919) |
3050 | 5-passenger brougham, metal back, rear quarter windows (1919) |
3110 (1) | [Fleetwood] 2-pass. coupe |
3110 (2) | Limousine [for U.S. Government - army ?] |
3140 | 7-passenger suburban, type B, metal back, quarter windows, auxiliary seats (1919) |
3140-P100 | Imperial suburban (1919) |
3210 | 7-passenger town car (limousine?), metal back, division, quarter windows, opera seats, fixed driver's roof (1919) |
3260 |
Imperial sedan (1919) [number used again for Series 314] |
1920-21 [Type 59]
Style # | Description and notes |
4000 | Type 59A: 4-passenger Victoria coupe |
4010 | Type 59A: 5-passenger sedan |
4020 | Type 59A: 7-passenger suburban, metal back, auxiliary seats |
4030 | Type 59A: 7-passenger limousine |
4040 | Type 59A: 7-passenger town brougham [town car] |
4050 | Type 59A: 7-passenger imperial limousine |
4120 | Type 59B: 7-passenger sedan [suburban], metal back, auxiliary seats |
4130 | Type 59B: 4-passenger Victoria coupe [Fleetwood used this style # in 1930] |
4140 | Type 59B: 5-passenger sedan |
4150 | Type 59B: 7-passenger limousine |
4160 | Type 59B: 7-passenger town brougham |
4170 | Type 59B: 7-passenger imperial limousine |
4270 | Type 59C: 5-passenger sedan |
4290 | Type 59C: 4-passenger Victoria coupe |
4300 | Type 59C: 7-passenger sedan [suburban], metal back, auxiliary seats |
4350 | Type 59C: 7-passenger imperial limousine |
4360 | Type 59C: 7-passenger limousine |
1922-23 [Type 61]
Style # |
Description and notes |
[none] | 7-passenger open touring car |
4400 | 7-passenger sedan [suburban?], metal back, quarter windows, auxiliary seats |
4410 | 7-passenger sedan [suburban?], metal back, quarter windows, auxiliary seats |
4420 | 4-passenger Victoria coupe, metal back, quarter windows, luggage compartment type deck |
4430(1) | 4-passenger Victoria |
4430(2) | 5-passenger sedan, metal back, quarter windows |
4440 | 4-passenger coupe, metal back, quarter windows, luggage compartment type deck |
4450 | 7-passenger town car [limousine?], metal back, division, quarter windows, auxiliary seats, fixed driver's roof |
4460 | 7-passenger imperial sedan [limousine?], metal back, division, quarter windows, auxiliary seats |
4470 | 2-passenger coupe, metal back, quarter windows, luggage compartment type deck |
4480 | 7-passenger town brougham [not on 1933 listing ???] |
4630 | 4-passenger coupe, Victoria, metal back, quarter windows, luggage compartment type deck |
5030 | 7-passenger sedan [suburban?], metal back, quarter windows, auxiliary seats [Fleetwood used this style # in 1932 for a 5-pass. limousine] |
5040 | 5-passenger sedan, metal back, rear windows |
5050 | 5-passenger coupe, metal back, quarter windows, luggage compartment type deck |
5060 | 7-passenger town car [limousine?], metal back, division, quarter windows, auxiliary seats, fixed driver's roof |
5070 | 7-passenger imperial sedan [limousine?], metal back, division, quarter windows, auxiliary seats |
5080 | 2-passenger coupe, metal back, quarter windows, luggage compartment type deck |
5090 | 4-passenger Victoria |
5160 | 5-passenger landaulet sedan |
1924-25 [Type V63]
Style # |
Description and notes |
1150 | 4-passenger phaeton [Type 63-A] |
1151 | 2-passenger roadster [Type 63-A] |
1149 | 7-passenger open touring car [Type 63-A] |
[none?] | Custom-built imperial sedan [Type 63-B] |
5260 | 7-passenger suburban |
5270 | 5-passenger sedan |
5280 | 5-passenger coupe |
5290 | 5-passenger landau sedan |
5300 | 7-passenger limousine |
5310 | 7-passenger imperial suburban |
5370 | 7-passenger town brougham |
5380 | 2-passenger coupe |
5460 | 5-passenger imperial |
5470 | 7-passenger sedan |
5490 | 4-passenger Victoria |
5680 | 7-passenger sedan |
5690 | 4-passenger Victoria |
5700 | 5-passenger landau sedan |
5710 | 2-passenger coupe |
5720 | 7-passenger suburban |
5730 | 7-passenger imperial suburban |
5740 | 5-passenger coupe |
5750 | 5-passenger sedan |
5760 | 7-passenger limousine |
5770 | 7-passenger town brougham |
6010 | 5-passenger coach |
6030 | 7-passenger imperial |
6150 | 5-passenger sedan |
1926-27 [Series 314-314A]
Style # |
Description and notes |
1154 | [out of numerical sequence] 7-passenger touring car |
1155 | [out of numerical sequence] 4-passenger sport phaeton |
1156 | [out of numerical sequence] 2-passenger roadster |
1163 | [out of numerical sequence] 7-passenger touring car |
1164 | [out of numerical sequence] 5-passenger phaeton |
1164-B | [out of numerical sequence] [id.] sport phaeton with folding tonneau windshield |
1165 | [out of numerical sequence] 2-passenger roadster |
2896 | [out of numerical sequence] 7-pass. limousine style [with leather roof?] |
6400 | 5-passenger brougham |
6410 | 7-passenger sedan |
6420 | 5-passenger sedan |
6430 | 2-passenger coupe |
6440 | 7-passenger imperial |
6450 | 7-passenger suburban |
6460 | 5-passenger coupe |
6470 | 5-passenger sedan |
6480 | 7-passenger imperial suburban |
6490 | 4-passenger Victoria |
6670 | 7-passenger suburban |
6670L | 7-passenger suburban [leather top] |
6680 | 5-passenger coupe |
6680L | 5-passenger coupe [leather roof] |
6690 | 5-passenger sedan |
6690L | 5-passenger sedan [leather roof] |
6700 | 7-passenger imperial suburban |
6700L | 7-passenger imperial suburban [leather roof] |
6970 | 5-passenger brougham |
6980 | 2-passenger coupe |
6990 | 5-passenger sedan [photo] |
7000 | 2-passenger sport coupe |
7010 | 7-passenger imperial |
7020 | 2/4-passenger convertible coupe |
7030 | 5-passenger Victoria |
7040 | 5-passenger sport sedan |
7050 | 7-passenger sedan |
1927-28 [Series 303 and 328 La Salle]
Style # |
Description and notes |
1168 | 4-passenger phaeton
|
1168B | [id.] with folding tonneau windshield
|
1169 | 2-passenger roadster, with rumble seat
|
1185 | 4-pass. phaeton |
1185-B | 4-pass. sport phaeton, with folding tonneau windshield |
1186 | 2-pass. roadster |
7380 | 5-passenger standard sedan |
7390 | 5-passenger Victoria |
7400 | 2-passenger convertible coupe |
7410 | 2-passenger coupe |
7420 | 4-passenger town sedan |
8050 | 5-passenger coupe |
8060 | 5-passenger Victoria |
8060A | 2-passenger convertible coupe |
8070 | 2-passenger coupe |
8080 | 4-passenger town sedan |
8090 | 4-passenger town sedan |
8110 | 4-passenger town sedan |
8110A | 4-passenger town sedan |
8120 | 4-passenger town sedan |
8130 | 4-passenger town sedan |
8140 | 4-passenger town sedan |
8140A | 4-passenger town sedan |
8530 | 7-pass. sedan |
8540 | 7-pass. limousine |
8550 | 5-passenger sedan |
8555 | 5-passenger family sedan |
8570 | 5-passenger coupe |
8580 | 2-passenger convertible coupe |
8590 | 2-passenger coupe |
8600 | sport sedan |
8605 | sport limousine [weith division] |
8610 | town sedan |
8615 | imperial town sedan |
1928 [Series 341 and 341-A]
Style # |
Description and notes |
1171 | [out of numerical sequence] 7-passenger touring car, with auxiliary seats |
1172 | [out of numerical sequence] 4-passenger phaeton |
1172-B | [out of numerical sequence] 4-passenger sport phaeton, with folding tonneau windshield |
1173 | [out of numerical sequence] 2-passenger roadster, with rumble seat |
7920 | 2/4-passenger coupe |
7930 | 7-passenger sedan |
7940 | 7-passenger imperial |
7940L | 7-passenger imperial [leather top] |
7950 | 5-passenger sedan |
7960 | 5-passenger town sedan |
7960L | 5-passenger town sedan [leather top] |
7970 | 5-passenger coupe |
7980 | 2/4-passenger convertible coupe |
7990 | 5-passenger imperial |
7990L | 5-passenger imperial [leather top] |
1929 [Series 341B]
Style # |
Description and notes |
1182 | [out of numerical sequence] 7-pass, touring car |
1183 | [out of numerical sequence] 4-pass, phaeton |
1183B | [out of numerical sequence] 4-pass. sport phaeton |
1184 | [out of numerical sequence] 2-pass. roadster |
1929 [Series 341-B]
Style # |
Description and notes |
8000L | |
8010L | |
8020 | |
8020L | |
8030 | |
8030L | |
8050 | |
8620 | 7-passenger sedan (1929) [the car shown below appears to have been made into a more desirable convertible style - the original sedan body is #3516]
|
8630 | |
8640 | |
8650 | |
8660 | |
8670 | |
8680 | |
8690 |
1929-1935
[ Fisher started a new sequence of numbers with the 1929 models]
Style # |
Description and notes |
1 | Touring car (1929) |
101 | Standard phaeton (1929) |
102 | Standard phaeton (1929) |
151 | Sport phaeton (1929) |
152 | town sedan, Series 353 and Series 370A (3 were mounted on the 1930-1931 V-16 chassis) |
155 | roadster; 1932 V-8 shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 Series 355B in 1933 [33-8-155] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-155] according to MPL; (some say only three units were made and all were mounted on the V-16 chassis for 1932) |
158 | 2-passenger coupe, Series 353 and Series 370A (again, 3 were mounted on the 1930-1931 V-16 chassis, [see McC, p.137 for further details]) |
159 | 5-passenger sedan, Series 353, Series 355B and Series 370B , 4074 LaSalles in 1934; 1932 and 1933 V-8 shown in MPL; (5 were mounted on the 1930-31 V-16 chassis and 56 more on the 1932 V-16 chassis)1 |
162 | 7-passenger sedan, Series 353 and Series 370A (1930-31) with 143" wheel base chassis |
163 | 7-passenger imperial, Series 353 and Series 370A (1930-31, V-8 and V-12) |
168 | 2-passenger convertible coupe, Series 353, Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; 600 on 1934 La Salle; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-168] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-168] according to MPL; (17 were mounted on the 1930-31 V-16 chassis, and 14 on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
172 | 5-pass. coupe, Series 353 and Series 370A , metalback, quarter windows, luggage compartment under rear deck, for Series 370A |
178 | 2-passenger Coupe; 786 on 1934 La Salle; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-178] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-178] according to MPL; (16 were mounted on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
182 | 5-passenger sedan with blank rear quarters (658 units listed in the MPL for the 1934 La Salle) |
201 | 2-passenger roadster (1929) |
202 | 2-passenger roadster (1929) |
209 | 5-passenger sedan; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-209] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-209] according to MPL; (some say all 29 units built on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
212 | 7-passenger sedan; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-212] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-212] according to MPL; (some say all 47 units built on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
213 | 7-passenger limousine; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-213] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-213] according to MPL; (some say all 49 units built on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
222 | 5-passenger town coupe Series 355B one on 1933 LaSalle V-8; 1932 V-8 and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-222] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-222] according to MPL; (some say all 24 units built on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
225 | 5-passenger town car, Series 355B and Series 370B; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-225] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-225] according to MPL; (some say all 4 units built on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
226 | 7-passenger limousine brougham; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-226] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-226] according to MPL; (some say all 7 units built on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
227 | 7-passenger town car; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-227] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-227]; (2 of these were built on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
252 | 5-passenger town sedan, Series 340 La Salle and Series 355 (3138 La Salles; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; plus at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-252] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-252]; 2 units on the 1932 V-16 chassis) |
256 | De Luxe [standard] 5-passenger phaeton; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-256] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-256];one built and mounted on 1932 V-16; possibly another on 1932 La Salle chassis |
258 | 2-passenger Coupe, Series 340 La Salle and Series 355 (1931) |
259 | 5-passenger Sedan, Series 340 La Salle and Series 355 (1931); 4731 La Salles were built in 1930; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-259] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-259]; there was also a factory demonstration model and 1 built on the 1932 V-16 chassis - it was possibly a "custom" style #212)2 |
262 | Listed as 7-pass La Salle sedan, Series 340 and Series 355 (1502 units in 1930); 1932 V-8 and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-262] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-262]; it was also a unique De Luxe [standard] 5-passenger phaeton on the 1932 V-16 chassis)3 |
263 | 7-passenger imperial sedan, Series 340 La Salle and Series 355 (1930-31); 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; at least one on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-263] and at least one on 1933 V-12 [33-12-263]; MPL shows at least one unit mounted on V-16 chassis in 1932; |
268 | 2-passenger convertible coupe, Series 340 La Salle (1930 La Salle - 1400 units) |
270 | 5-passenger phaeton |
272 | 5-passenger coupe, Series 340 La Salle and Series 355 (1400 La Salles built 1930, at least one built on V-12 Series 370 chassis in 1931, another on the V-16 chassis in 1932), also on Series 355B, another on V-8 in 1933 [33-8-272] and one on V-12 [33-12-272]; 1932 V-8 and V-12 shown in MPL; |
273 | All-Weather phaeton (13 on 1932 V-16) (16 in all, of which at least one on V-8 chassis [33-8-273] and at least one on the V-12 [33-12-273]); 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 shown in MPL; |
279 | 5-passenger sport phaeton with dual cowl; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; (2 built, both on 1932 V-16) |
280 | 5-passenger special phaeton; 1932 V-8 Series 355B and V-12 Series 370B shown in MPL; (3 on 1932 V-16) |
301 | 2-passenger convertible coupe (1929) |
302 | 2-passenger convertible coupe (1929) |
351 | 2-passenger Coupe (1929) |
401 | 5-passenger Coupe (1929) |
402 | 5-passenger Coupe (1929) |
501 | 5-pass, Town Sedan (1929) |
502 | 5-passenger Town Sedan (1929) |
601 | 5-passenger Sedan (1929) |
602 | 5-passenger Sedan (1929) |
652 | 5-passenger La Salle Town Sedan, Series 345, 345B and 345C (1931-33), 355D (1934) |
658 | 2-passenger La Salle 2-passenger coupe, Series 345 (1931) |
[688] | [unsure] Possibly a large, custom touring car body that may have been modified by Fleetwood and installed on a V-16 chassis in 1930-31. Such a car was delivered new to a dealer in NYC. See V-16 survivors entries for engine # 701849 [Fleetwood style #4257-A or 4257-H] |
701 | 7-passenger Sedan (1929) |
702 | 7-passenger Sedan (1929), 355D (1934) |
709 | 5-passenger sedan (listed in the MPL for the 1934-35 Cadillac V-8) |
718 | 2-passenger convertible coupe (listed in the MPL for the 1934-35 Cadillac V-8) |
721 | 5-passenger convertible sedan (listed in the MPL for the 1934-35 Cadillac V-8) |
722 | 5-passenger town coupe (listed in the MPL for the 1934-35 Cadillac V-8) |
728 | 2-passenger sport coupe (listed in the MPL for the 1934-35 Cadillac V-8) |
901 | 7-passenger Imperial (1929) |
1102 | convertible Touring car (1929) |
1151 | convertible Touring car (1929) [Fisher used this style # previously for a 2-pass. roadster on the Type V63 chassis] |
1201 | roadster (1929) |
1301 | convertible Coupe (1929) |
1351 | 2-passenger Coupe (1929) |
1401 | 5-passenger Coupe (1929) |
1601 | 5-passenger Sedan (1929) |
1651 | 5-passenger Family Sedan (1929) |
1701 | 7-passenger Sedan (1929) |
1801 | 5-passenger convertible Landau, with folding rear quarters (1929) [factory photo available] |
1901 | 5-passenger Imperial [1929) |
1 Three "customized" style 159 bodies may also have been built on the V-16 chassis
2 The body number of this car is shown in factory records as No. 31, although only one was built. A study of factory records carried out in the early Seventies by Carl L. Steig revealed that the numerical sequence for Fisher style 212, of which 47 units were built, is broken at No. 30. I am forced to deduce, therefore, that unique Fisher style 259, which was used to demonstrate the V-16, is in fact the "missing" style 212 sedan.
3 Again, although only one was built, this car carries No. 57 in factory records. Again Carl Steig's research turned up a broken sequence for Fisher style 159. Although these bodies are numbers from 1 to 60, only 56 are recorded as having been built. As no other Fisher body used on the V-16 chassis exceeded 49 units of production, I assume that unique Fisher style 262 is in fact a modified style 159; its body number (57) shows that at least 57 units were built (and not 56). My guess is that the three missing style 159 bodies (Nos 58, 59 and 60) were the Fisher "specials": 2901LX, 2951LX and 30X.
Note: on Fisher open body styles, the driver's seat was non-adjustable.
1933 [La Salle Series 345a, 345B, 345C]
Style # |
Description and notes |
652 | 5-passenger LaSalle Town Sedan 345A, 345B, 345C (1931-33) |
659 | 5-passenger LaSalle Sedan, Series 345, 345B and 345C (1931-33), 355D (1934) |
662 | 7-passenger La Salle sedan, Series 345, 345B and 345C (1931-33), 355D (1934) |
663 | 7-passenger LaSalle Imperial, Series 345, 345B and 345C (1931-33), 355D (1934) |
668 | 2-passenger La Salle convertible Coupe, Series 345, 345B and 345C (1931-33), 355D (1934) |
671 | 5-passenger convertible sedan (listed in the MPL for the 1934-35 Cadillac V-8), 355D (1934) |
672 | 5-passenger La Salle town coupe, Series 345, 345B and 345C (1931-33) |
678 | 2-passenger sport coupe, Series 345B and 345C (listed in the MPL for the 1933 LaSalle and 1934-35 Cadillac V-8), 355D (1934) |
Special Custom Fisher Styles
[with "X" or "LX" in the job/style numbers]
[assumed to have been built in 1929-1930]Before proceeding, I would refer you to the page summarizing the 1933 Cadillac V-16 production. There you will find some notes regarding the mysterious "X" and "LX" prefixes and suffixes used by both Fisher and Fleetwood to indentify some special, custom jobs that may have been on the books for in-house big-wigs even before production actually got under way in December of 1929.
We hope these "X" and "LX" cars will spark some interest in this aspect of Fisher/Fleetwood job numbering and that some of you with access to factory archives can shed more light on this interesting topic.
2901LX | EXCEPTION: This number was used for a unique Fisher-built 7-passenger sedan on the 1930-31 V-16 chassis. In my opinion the initial digits "29" probably indicate the year when the body was first commissioned or recorded (i.e.1929). The last two digits "01", suggest that this may be the first custom job, either for 1929 or for the new V-16. "X"s have always been used by Cadillac, in conjunction with a numerical code, to denote custom job or prototype. My guess (founded on years of research anmd the flawless (?) logic of Fleetwood) is that the "L" stood for either "leather" (indicating a leather covered roof) or "livery" (indicating that the car was for GM's own livery service or for one of its prominent officials). Larry Fisher, Cadillac chief at the time, was known to personally inspect all "customs" and "specials" prior to delivery, e.g. style 3159LX, mentioned below |
LX2905 | EXCEPTION: This was a 5-passenger special town sedan mounted on the V-16 chassis. It was built for a GM executive. The final digits "05" suggest to me that it was the fifth special body ordered from Fisher in 1929 (the official order number in Fisher records is 7877). Details about this special car are included in an article entitled The mysterious and elusive Madam X by Australia's Maurice Hendry, an authority on the Cadillac; the story appeared in Car Collector in June 1981. Presumably this car was ordered before the next one, below [LX2913] although the body was mounted on a later V-16 chassis (#702388) and completed in July 1930. This car had many Madame X features such as chrome window reveals and a flat, 18°-slanting windshield. Two-tone gray in color, the moldings, fenders and chassis were painted Desert Sand. Striping and wheels were Tokio Ivory (white). The car was delivered to the executive garage in July 1930 for the private use of C.H. Clise, a top-notch GM official. |
LX2913 | EXCEPTION: custom 5-passenger coupe. This code again bears the same explanation as above. Cadillac historian Maurice Hendry describes this car as a special 2-door, 5-passenger coupe also with lots of Madame X features. In addition it had chrome wire wheels, including the two side-mounted spares. The body was mounted on a V-16 chassis (#702117 of the June 1930 production run); the Fisher body order number was 7878. The fact that it was built for one De Witt Page would seen to belie my theory about a car for GM livery service, unless Mr. Page was a GM VIP or the car was placed at his disposal for another reason. Trimmed in plain Wiese upholstery piped with silver leather, the car featured a radio and a spotlight. The color was two-tone green with silver leaf striping, the chassis being the same color as the fenders. It was shipped on June 21, 1930, to Tabor Cadillac in Hartford, CT. The suffix "X" has always designated custom jobs. |
2951LX | EXCEPTION: custom 7-passenger sedan on V-16 chassis [1929?] Code 2951LX bears the same explanation as above. This was another unique Fisher 7-passenger sedan on the 1930-31 V-16 chassis. As above, I think that in this case too, the initial digits merely signalled the year as 1929. Final digits "51" suggest the 51st custom job (for 1959?). Again, the suffix "L" may be an indication of a leather roof or a car intended for GM livery service. The "X" suffix here is an indication of a custom job. This car did not have the Madame X features. |
30X | EXCEPTION: custom 7-passenger sedan (test car) [1930?] This car was a standard Fisher 7-passenger sedan mounted for test and demonstration purposes on the V-16 chassis4; the o.a. length was 211" (= 536cms.), o.a. width: 74¾" (= 190cms.). That body style featured side cowl ventilators, a cord-type robe rail, adjustable foot rail, vanity set with upholstery inset, folding arm rest in the center of the rear seat back, dome lights with a toggle switch in both front and rear compartments (which also lighted when the doors were opened), assist cords, ¼-windows, curtains on the back light (rear window) and the ¼-windows, full lowering glass division, a telephone to chauffeur, Fisher "VV" windshield, a leather trimmed front compartment, flush- fitting broad auxiliary seats in the separate rear compartment folding flat against the partition when not in use. |
3951LX | EXCEPTION: In this case, the initial digits "39" do NOT point to the year. Fleetwood used these digits identify custom styles built on Cadillac's 140" wheel base chassis for 1930 (e.g. 3920, 3925, 3960, 3975, 3991). Of course there are exceptions; two bodies meant for the 140" and 143" chassis with V-8 or V-12 engine were fitted onto the 148" V-16 chassis for 1930 (these were styles 3981 and 3991). Job 3951LX5 was a custom body for the V-12 chassis that Fisher delivered to Don Lee for famous screen comic, Joe E. Brown. Probably it was the 51st special body ordered from Fisher and built in 1931. The body was a landau sedan style with folding rear quarters. It was painted black and had a black leather top. In my opinion it was probably very similar in appearance to V-16 style 4375C. The car was mounted on a 143" chassis, #1001002. Records show that GM's Art & Color section were to furnish parts for the folding back (landau roof). After the job was mounted it was inspected by Larry Fisher himself. This particular car was shipped to Don Lee, Inc. in Los Angeles. |
4 Photo: McC p. 138
5 I would be interested to hear from anyone with knowledge of these "X" and "LX" cars or about GM's own livery service in the twenties and thirties
Whereas Fleetwood artisans seem to have kept a pretty good photographic record of all the cars for which they built the bodies, on the other hand Fisher appear to have taken few official factory photos of four of the above "special custom" creations ... a regrettable omission, in my opinion. But all is not lost, special cars like these have a habit of turning up unexpectedly at current auctions!
Equivalent Fleetwood Codes in 1932
[for specific Fisher codes]
The
styles listed below follow the Fisher body numbering system but they are strictly |
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32-16-212 32-16-213 32-26-222 32-16-225 32-16-226 32-16-227 |
#5130S - 5-passenger sedan #5175S - 7-passenger sedan #5175 - 7-passenger imperial sedan #5181 - 5-passenger town coupe #5112 - 5-passenger town car #5191 - 7-passenger Limousine brougham #5125 - 7-passenger town
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