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The Cadillac V16
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Series 452-452A
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Surviving Sixteens
of the first generation
by domestic (U.S.) coach builders
Body Style |
Body Number | Engine Number |
Latest available information |
Phaeton |
? |
700991 |
This custom 4-passenger special phaeton by Murphy, designed by
the late, great Frank Q. Hershey started life as a roadster; it was not built on a bare
chassis as I initially believed. Walter Montgomery Murphy set up business in Pasadena, CA,
in 1917. One of the firm's notable styling features in the thirties were large,
chrome-plated hinges (as seen on this car). I first saw this car in the Self Starter for
August 1963; at that time it had been acquired by CLC member Robert Taunton, while on
honeymoon with his new bride. Robert did the initial ground-up restoration after the car
got hit by a drunk (?) taxi-driver in California. In the eighties the car was owned
by Donald Westerdale. It was the object of an article in AQ for the fourth quarter 1984.
In 1962, it was painted green and had a green top and red leather interior. It was owned
at one time by Charles and Anita Howard; beautifully restored it got an award at
Meadowbrook in 1995. The car was listed in the 2002 CLC Directory as belonging to J.
McMullen, MI. Late
extra [2/2007]:
the car was auctioned off as part of the McMullen Collection on June 9, 2007 in Lapeer, Michigan
[info from V16 enthusiast and owner, Chris Cummings]. A full description
and history of the car is currently [May 2007] available on the RM Auction
site. The catalogue estimate is between $850,000 and $1,000,000. I initially thought it
would be a hard sell on today's market for over $400K. Well, it turns out I was
WRONG! The reported selling price was actually $1,056,000 !!!
This full write-up is provided courtesy of RM Auctions (I met their London auctiioneer, Max G., in Amelia Island in April, 2011): Unlike other luxury car makers of the
day, Cadillac did not commonly allow the sales of bare chassis to coachbuilders. As a
result, custom-built bodies on the V16 chassis were extremely rare, with Cadillac records
showing only five such orders released from the factory. Consequently, if a customer
wanted the power and elegance of a Cadillac V16, but a custom body to his own taste, his
only choice was to order a complete car, and of course, the choice was almost always the
rumble seat roadster, which was the least expensive model in the line. Once delivered the
factory body would be removed and discarded or sold off, and the coachbuilder would then
install the new coachwork. |
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Roadster |
? |
? |
2-passenger roadster by Rollston; this car was formerly owned (1979) by Peter W.Hinrichs, of Mequon,WI. For many years a "mystery", the car's identity was finally revealed during restoration; the underside of the windshield was stamped "Rollston, July 1932". In 2002, this car was owned by Robert M. Lee of Reno, NV. It made a first appearance at the Pebble Beach concours d'Elégance in August, 2002. |
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Town Car |
? |
? |
By Waterhouse; it is not believed to have survived. |
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Surviving Sixteens
of the first generation
by foreign coach builders
Body Style |
Body Number | Engine Number |
Latest available information |
Town |
? | ? | Bronckhorst (or Bronkhorst) [Netherlands]) Special V-16 7-passenger Ľ-window brougham with canework on lower rear quarters [like Fleetwood style #4264-B but a longer body, with quarter windows added, full-sized jump seats folding into partition]. I am wondering if this might not be a conversion from the 1930 V-16 Town Brougham tour car, Fleetwood style #4264-B? These views are from the 30's French trade magazine, Auto-Carrosserie No. 92, Figs. 16-18. The car is mentioned also in an earlier salon report for the same magazine [maybe No. 91] of which I do not have a copy. The images below are Xerox copies, hence the relatively poor quality. The car is not believed to have survived. |
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Town Car |
? |
? |
By Kellner [Alexis of Germany or Georges of Paris]; in any case it is not believed to have survived. |
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Boattail |
? | Between 703136 and 703152 |
Farina [Italy] Factory records [which I have not seen] reveal that the chassis of this car left Detroit on July 17, 1931, bound for Turin, Italy [that month, only 17 cars/chassis were completed, they were #703136 to 703152]. The special, boat-tailed speedster or "tiger-shoot" car was commissioned by the wealthy Maharajah of Orccha, one of India's princely states before the country gained independence in 1947. The Self Starter issue for June, 1965, carried a factory photo of the car, the same one that I got from the PF archives in 1975 and that I wrote about in the Classic Car magazine for June 1976. Dave Towell, Cadillac dealer and collector of Akron, OH, wrote me in September 1976 to say that he had bought the car in April that year, from the late Sheikh Mukhtar, a Pakistani actor and film director who had acquired it in 1960, directly form the Maharajah, for a reported 7000 rupees (circa $560). In 1976, the car had barely 12K miles on the odometer. The car's presence in the USA sparked much interest; Bill Mitchell, then Director of GM Styling, went to Akron to examine it. Gita and I went to see Dave's cars too, in June 1978, on our first trip to the USA. Grand memories! I understand that Dave paid $105,000 for the car. It arrived in Akron in July 1976. He did almost no restoration work on the car before selling it again. The car was later acquired by Tom Barrett, then by Jack Frederick and Fran Roxas who, in my opinion, "over-restored" it. The roadster was featured shortly thereafter in AQ, Vol. 20, #4, in its new black garb with an unlikely red velour interior (!). In the eighties, Ken Behring acquired it for his renowned Blackhawk collection in Danville, CA. This particular ad appeared in the CLC's Self-Starter magazine in August, 1983: 1930 V16 Boat-tail "The ultimate 50s hot rod". The car was being offered for sale by a Mr. Jack Wenger of Broadway, VA (I assume it was this same car). Motor Trend ran an article on the car, in March 1985. According to the Self Starter for July, 2001, the current owner is Robert Lee of Sparks, NV. Rare and "exotic" Cadillacs like this one have a habit of turning up in the most unexpected places and at the oddest times; their tale is often told, distorted, embellished, often for the sole purpose of increasing the car's marketability. Late Extra (5/2010): I'm not sure if there is any truth to a rumor that the car is to be repainted back to black with red trim [the repaint colors selected by Jack Frederick and Fran Roxas in the 80s] for upcoming show (in 2010?) of Pinin Farina custom jobs. It sounds odd indeed (and very expensive). Will the car be repainted, again, back to the original PF color scheme, after that show? Note: Members of a classic car forum in India have discussed this car; they seriously doubt the accuracy of information about it on internet sites (including mine?) and in magazines like Motor Trend. According to the current Maharaja of Orccha, HH Madhugar Shah, whose father ordered this car, it remained in use with the Orccha family at least until the late fifties and would drop him off and pick him up from school. He asserted that it was never designed, nor used, for hunting tigers; that was just a myth! One of the original "V-16" hubcaps still survives in the Orccha garages. According to one member of the forum, the Pinin Farina speedster and a rare Duesenberg SSJ with body Gurney-Nutting that had belonged to India's princely Holkar family, were smuggled abroad by actor Sheik Mukhtar and traded for a pair of new 1960 Chevy Impalas! Another members, Nigel Davis with whom I have been in contact, remembers seeing the car in the late sixties when it was still owned by film actor and director Sheik Mukhtar. It's licence tag read "ORCCHA 1"; he said it was parked on the road; Mukhtar had come to visit a famous Indian story-writer. Nigel was a little boy at that time but he still remembers the car. Years later he read in Motor Trend how Mukhtar had found the car buried in the ground with the boat tail sticking out. He bought it and later took it out of the country, though Pakistan, and sold.Will the truth ever be known? |
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Convertible Victoria? |
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Lancefield [England] According to Matt Larson of the CLC, this engine/chassis combination had RHD and was exported to England in 1930. I initially thought it had got a saloon [sedan] body designed by Van den Plas and possibly built by Lancefield in England. This former "mystery V16" was offered for sale by auction by the Kruse organization in 1996 (lot #696). It was described as a V16 convertible (?) of 1930 [actually 1931, from the VIN] with RHD and body by Lancefield of England. The colors were given as cream and green. The upper photo, below is from the collection of Gregg D. Merksamer of the Society of Automotive Historians (SAH); others are from the internet. Late extra (Oct., 2010): The car was brought to my attention again by owner-enthusiast and V-16 "sleuth", Chris Cummings. Chris said: This car was bodied by Lancefield in England. It is reputed to have been among a small group of bare chassis shipped to Van Den Plas, from where it made its way to the UK. Manny Dragone purchased it in Europe about ten years ago, sold it to a buyer in Connecticut, and recently took it back in trade for another car. Mr. Dragone did some paint and upholstery work some years ago, and some work had been done on the car before he bought it. He says that the seller told him the car had been exhibited at the London Motor Show in 1931 . I have read a few reports of the 1931 London Motor Show at Olympia, in specialized UK magazines of the period; there was no mention of this custom job; the only such job mentioned was a limousine-landaulet with body by Van den Plas (described below)]. Chris pointed me to the web page of the Manny Dragone classic car collection in Bridgeport, CT, where the car resides. It is said to be an excellent older restoration and is fitted with a high speed rear axle. The car is for sale for $650,000! BTW, I have seen a drawing of a V-16 by Lancefield, but the latter is not a convertible. |
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Town car |
? |
702073 |
Nordberg [Sweden] town car on 1930 chassis #702042.
This car was ordered by Torsten Krüger (the Swedish industrialist), son of Ernst Krüger,
the "Safety Match King" and younger brother of Ivar Krüger whose unethical
business practices ended with his suicide (or was it murder???) in Paris, in 1932. Torsten
helped run the family match business. In 1933, he was sentenced to a year in jail for a
so-called "economical swindle" (no details available). Krüger owned many
classic cars including a Bentley and a Duesenberg. He even owned his own island
(Bullerö) in the Swedish archipelago. There, he would entertain celebrities like Mary Pickford, Errol Flynn and Charlie Chaplin, taking them for cruises aboard his luxury motor
yacht, M/V United Spirit, a legendary Swedish luxury yacht that he built in 1934.
The Nordberg town landaulet was then acquired by Swedish media mogul, Vetus
Pettersson, in Malmö. The third and current (2010) owner is Helge Kaarinen, owner of Sparreholm Castle and car museum; he currently (2010) lives in London. This car is in its
original state and has never been restored. The coach-builder, Nordberg,
passed on in 1977; he had built many interesting custom bodies on Cadillac chassis,
including a number of them for the Swedish Royal family under the reign of King Gustaf V.
Correction for
October, 2011 (submitted by V16 "guru"
and friend, Chris Cummings): Chris says that this Norberb custom is
not the Kruger car, as I mentioned in error,
above. This Norberg creation (below) was built on spec by the Ostermans car
dealership in Stockholm. Chris wrote: The car sat in the showrooms (the
“Marble Halls”) for several years before Pettersson wandered in, not very
impressively dressed. The salesmen tried to give him the bum’s rush, but he
homed in on the V-16 town car and bought it off the showroom floor.
Chris added that the Kruger car was a Fleetwood style 4375 owned by
Anders Wald’s friend, Tage Jingnert. As to the car pictures formerly included in this entry [and that I have now moved to the correct page] they showed a car with painted metal sidemount covers; Chris identified it correctly as a Fleetwood Series 4155) that lives in the Haynes Museum in Somerset, England. |
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Convertible Sedan |
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Saoutchik [France]
Chassis # 7-101(?), formerly body #2 of the 85 units built, this was one of the six European tour cars (the original sport phaeton body was put later on another V16 chassis). This sport phaeton was Fisher order #2587; it was shipped to Copenhagen, Denmark on June 11, 1930 for the European promotional tour. Upholstery was Radel Spanish grain leather #2400, trim style 19 (or 1930?); the entire hood, cowl and body panels were painted in R&M Indiana gray (Duco #20157), as were the wheel hubs, spokes and felloes. The molding and the hood and cowl vents all were painted Saxon gray (Duco? #2445519); fenders and chassis were painted Ravenwood brown (Duco #5782). The finish moldings on top of the belt were chrome-plated. Wire wheels (six) were mounted, including two in the fenders; the original tires had black side walls. A travel trunk was mounted in the rear. Paris' Jacques Saoutchik later mounted a sedan body on this engine/chassis combination; it had a special sliding roof with a transparent roof that panel lined up with the rear window when the roof was fully retracted [note that during the time that car remained in France, it carried French tags "8651RK2"; when it was sold at an RM auction in May, 2011, it had the same license tags!?!?]. The car is believed to have been owned in 1960 by an elderly lady (89 years old at the time); it was to have been sold at auction by a Paris garage, but an agent of the owner turned up in the nick of time to pay an outstanding repair bill. The subsequent sequence of events in this car's life is unclear; one former owner is said to have been the Marquis of Goulaine, who reortedly sold it later to a nephew of the Count of Paris. It is said to have been also for some time in the possession of French auto dealer, Johnny Thuysbaert who stored it his château, near Nantes. Major repairs are assumed to have been carried out in 1964 by the Francis workshops near Paris; the story is related in France's weekly Auto-Journal for August 6, 1964; there are some photos. The car was then apparently acquired by the late Serge Pozzoli, former editor of France's Fanatique de l'Automobile, who stored it in a warehouse at Av. Jean-Jaurčs, in Paris, near the "Poker" beer warehouse owned by Hubert Le Gallais. Hubert subsequently bought it from Pozzoli and showed it at various meets in and around Paris in the late sixties and early seventies. I visited him in the early seventies and photographed the car at his restaurant-home in Le Pavé du Roi near Fontainebleau; at that time the car was dark blue with a dark brown roof. Later, Le Gallais moved to Brittany (NW France) where he opened another restaurant. I lost track of the V-16 in the late seventies and discovered, later, that it had returned to the USA (in the mid-to-late-eighties or even early nineties): there it was completely restored to the highest standards by respected restorer Fran Roxas of Alsip, Illinois for Fred Weber of St. Louis, Missouri. During restoration, the Saoutchik body was removed from the Cadillac chassis on which it was originally built [VIN 701554]. Roxas then put the Saoutchik body onto chassis VIN 700979, another correct V-16 chassis that had received originally a Fleetwood four-door sedan body; interestingly the latter chassis was originally ordered new by C.F. “Boss” Kettering, the creator of the self starter, Delco, and a leading GM engineer who went on to develop the Parade of Progress, that chassis in itself, therefore, is of historical importance. During restoration, the original Marchal headlights mounted by Saoutchik were replaced with Grebels, I guess to match the accessory, cowl spotlights (personally, I preferred the huge Marchals). A new top was made and the hood ports were chrome-plated; a central fog-light was added and the car got new paint. After the restoration was completed, it was purchased by Detroit-area real estate developer Bernie Glieberman of West Bloomfield, MI; it garnered noteworthy results. Major awards included a Class Award at Pebble Beach in 1991 and at Meadow Brook in 1995 where it won Best in Class and the Engineering in Excellence Trophy. It made a noted appearance at the "Cadillac-La Salle Experience" meet at the Gilmore Museum, Hickory Corner, MI, in June 1993. The car was shown again at Meadowbrook, in 1995. It was later reported to be for sale at the annual Barrett-Jackson auction in Scottsdale, AZ [year???]; it is said to have been bid to $325,000; the program mentioned "Lot #9, color silver/blue, rare Saoutchik body with retractable 2-position sunroof that rolls back to an open roof over the passenger compartment. Lights by "Stephen Grabel" [typical BJ mis-spelling of Stéphane Grebel]. Show quality restoration. Pebble-Beach winner. Asking price $325,000" ...I imagine that Mr. Le Gallais had probably sold it for less than $50,000! Late Extra [1/2001]: The last-but-one owner acquired the automobile in January 2001. This outstanding V-16 has won awards at the Pebble Beach Concours, with yet another Class Award, and Amelia Island, where it received the trophy for Most Elegant Closed Car, as well as at Palos Verdes and Newport Beach. Recently in the care of noted restorers Alan Taylor and Mosier Restorations, the car benefited from both a cosmetic upgrading and a mechanical freshening in order to prepare the car for touring as well as show purposes. The owner spoke to George Kovarda, who has a number of photos of this car prior to and during the initial stages of restoration in the USA. He does not believe Kovarda was working for Fran Roxas at the time he had the car. Also, he only had the body there for the purpose of making it back into a convertible sedan for Fred Weber. After Fred hired Marc Ohm to run his "in house" restorations, they took the body back from George; they decided not to make it a convertible after all, but to put the sliding roof top back on the car. The new owner thinks that Saoutchik may have built the car initially as a convertible sedan and someone else may have built the sliding sunroof later; I doubt it; there was a tag on the top with the name of a firm in Paris; my best guess is that Saoutchik did in fact design the special top but had it installed by a specialist in the French capital]. Later [8/2007]: the car found a new home during the Gooding & Co auction at Pebble Beach on August 18, 2007, where it achieved a record price of $462,000 [thanks, Chris Cummings, for this update]. Later still [3/2011]: Chris advised that the car was being offered at auction, in May 2011, during the prestigious Villa d'Este venue on lake Como. We shall hear more about it soon. Even later [4/2011]: My daughter, Kelly, attended the show with her fiancé; she didn’t quite get her photos right! Latest [5/2011]: Gita and I were honored to be able to attend the Amelia Island Concours, where this car (among many others) was sold once again. |
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Limousine |
[556] |
702297 |
Van den
Plas [England and Belgium] This one
(and the one below it) left the factory
on July 9, 1930, bound for London and the
Olympia Motor Show. It is the same car I saw advertised in the Self Starter in
July, 1959, by a Mr. Jeffrey Watts of Levittown, PA. His ad reads: "1930-31
Cadillac V16 with English built body; originally owned by Guinness of stout fame; designed
by Van den Plas and built by [Lancefield for Van den Plas?] Lendrum and Hartmann, Ltd. RHD, compartmented [i.e.
limousine division?], folding landau back, English headlights (large), upholstery moth
eaten but beautiful, paint rough, mechanically looks excellent ($300 ...or may be
less)". So
far as I know, the car was offered for sale at a "Movieland - Cars of the
Stars" auction in Hollywood, in May 1974; Roy Schneider told me it was in a
deplorable state and did not find a buyer; it needed "everything" including a
highly talented enthusiast with some heavy funding. In his list of survivors, Rick Leforge
attributes this one to "Lyon Classic Cars, L.A." It appears it was
acquired at some time by the late "Cadillac Jim" Pearson of Kansas City; he
still had it in 1976. He subsequently sold it to James.C. Leake, a well-known
collector and dealer from Tulsa, OK. This car and the one below has RHD [one of the rare few built
this way!] and lots of wood inlays. Mr. Leake said of the car in 1977: "It
has the greatest amount of inlaid walnut wood throughout the car that I have ever seen and
there is also much brass." It was still undergoing a full restoration when I saw
it and photographed it from every angle in Tulsa in June, 1978. In the late
seventies the odometer reading was 56K miles (Note that in the most recent
advertisement for the car - in Apr. 2014 - the mileage is stated to be
54,693). This car is listed also among the
Database "Dream
cars" for 1930. Van den Plas described it as a
special Cadillac "Saloon Landaulette De Luxe" mounted on the V16
chassis. Initially, it was painted powder blue with black roof and fenders; styling
features include slender vertical windshield posts, flick up turn-signal indicators, a
flat windshield, Trivia:
This car came up for in the classifieds of the British Motor magazine dated
April 4, 1934. It was described as a: Limousine Landolet
[sic], 1930 Cad,
double enclosed Vanden Plas, leather, forward occasionals, Ł295, Alpe and Saunders, |
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Limousine |
??? |
702298 |
Van den Plas [Belgium] again possibly built by Lancefield, in England, for Lendrum
& Hartman, the London Cadillac dealer. It left the factory in July of 1930
and is presumed to have been exported to London, as was also the other Van
den Plas creation, above. I got a telephone call in
June, 2004, from the grandson of this car's first owner, a wealthy Pakistani gentleman;
this car survives in Pakistan and we shall certainly be hearing more about it. Lancefield built a
similar car on the V12 chassis, designated a "special Cadillac Town Cabriolet De
Luxe" (a 5-pass. town car with forward facing opera seats). It is fitted with
cycle fenders and retractable (?) steps in lieu of running boards. Both doors are hinged
at the center post ("B" pillar). Originally light-colored, the body is now black
or dark blue; the original headlights have gone (perhaps replaced with
Grebel models). The coach type sill on the car is similar to that used on Fleetwood sixteens
with style codes in the "42.." series. Six wire wheels (with side-mounted
spares) are fitted (both tires appear to have been missing for some time). In the advertising brochure I saw in Washington, the text for the V12
version reads as follows: "This body is fitted with de Ville extension
[removable curtain over the driving area] but it is otherwise designed as a Town
Cabriolet with Fixed Head. (...) No running boards are fitted, steps being made to open
with the doors. A distinguishing feature is the special type of wings fitted [cycle
fenders]. Seating accommodation - The back seat is designed for two but can accommodate
a third and two occasional seats are fitted, facing forward. The driving seat is very
roomy and is designed specially for the comfort of the owner-driver. Colour scheme
optional, and a choice of the very finest cloths and soft leathers. As supplied to Captain
F.W. Hartman and Major E. Howard" [Captain Hartman was CEO of Lendrum &
Hartman, the long-standing Cadillac-LaSalle sales outlet in |
Enthusiast Nigel Davis suspects
that this is one of the two Cadillac cars that came from the Nawab's
LATE EXTRA
This You Tube video clip of the car being
started http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFT5y8USaFo
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[Mystery 2] |
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NEW, Jan. 2013:
(information from Chris Cummings) Surfacing in time for the Bonhams
Scottsdale auction later this month [Jan. 2013] is a
fascinating ambulance conversion of a 1930 V-16 Series 4375-S seven-passenger
sedan. The engine is from a Series 4361-S town sedan. The coachbuilder kept
the original wheelbase (148") but lengthened the rear quarter of the body
significantly and created a side-hung rear entrance. The fenders appear to
be customized 1930 Cadillac parts, with skirting and a streamlining effect.
The rear fenders are extended to go with the new body length. The fronts are
styled to look like 1934 Packard fenders. The stock 1930 radiator is
enclosed in a shell that looks like a 1934-1935 Cadillac V-8 or V-12 part,
but matches up nicely with a 1930 hood and allows the 1930 radiator filler
neck to protrude. The grille is very similar to (but different from) the
'34-'35 Cadillac counterpart. The engine has a second generator on the
driver's side and a voltage regulator for it on the firewall (understandable
in view of the extra lighting and siren an ambulace would carry). Somebody
did a LOT of work on this beast. License plates are 1956 California. I'm
speculating from the grey paint and the shape of the scraped-off lettering
that it may have served a naval base, perhaps during WWII. See the Bonhams
website. Late Extra:
(from Chris again) The car was sold for $44,850, including a $5,850
premium. Note: Because the chassis of this car was first used for a Fleetwood sedan style "4375-S", I have included it also im the section relating to those models. |
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[Mystery 3] |
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Listed for sale at the Kruse auction in Auburn, IN, 9/1999 [lot #1068],
was this "16 cyl. unknown exterior - Kingston custom De Luxe body. This is
a very rare limited produced car" [sic]. It was reported to have been sold
for $160,000. Anybody know more about this car?
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[ex-4375] | ? | 700132 | In 1934, this engine was put in a Chrysler Le Baron dual-cowl phaeton by power-boat racing star, Lou Fageol. At last news (8/2005), this unusual Cadillac-powered car was owned by Laurence (Byron) Dorcy [art. in SS, 9/2005]. Where is it today? |
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[ex-????] | ? | 701866 | This most unusual
V-16 powered hot rod was brought to my attention by a dedicated V-16 owner-enthusiast,
Chris Cummings. It was built in the 40s. About that car, Chris wrote this wonderful
piece, based on information gleaned from old racing and hot rod magazines [sorry for the
condensed presentation!]:. Craig
Carash of Sandpoint, Idaho has a very special remembrance of his late uncle Bill
Carash. It is a beautifully designed and executed, hand built roadster from the
golden age, if you will, of west coast hot rodding. And its powered by a
Cadillac V-16 engine. In 1945, at
the age of 17, Bill Carash did what a lot of California teenagers did at that time.
He set out to build a hot rod. Only they werent generally known as hot rods
back then. They might be called customs, or roadsters. Or just cars.
People just went to the local used car lots or salvage yards and looked for a strong but
lightweight chassis, and maybe a light body (like a coupe or roadster). Some
builders looked to military surplus sources and used things like aircraft belly tanks to
make super streamlined vehicles. And, of course, you needed an engine. Some
worked with the four cylinder Fords. Others started with flathead Ford V-8s.
Some adventurous folks sought out the big power plants that drove the great luxury cars of
the previous generation Marmons, Duesenbergs, Cadillacs. Bill Carash started with the engine and built the rest of the car around
it. He cruised wrecking yards until he located a junked Cadillac V-16, out of which
he bought the engine and transmission. That serial number of the engine he acquired
was 701866, which means that the donor car was shipped during June of 1930. It took him a couple of years to accomplish a thorough overhaul and reassembly,
and then he began building the rest of the car. The engine is only mildly modified
two Stromberg 97 downdraft carburetors replace the Detroit Lubricator updraft units
it came with. And the fuel is fed by an electric pump. Again
looking to wrecking yards, Carash selected the frame, front axle and steering components
from a 1936 Plymouth. Semi-eliptics spring the front of the car with a single
transverse leaf spring in the rear. He substantially reinforced the chassis and
prepared it to accept and support the big Cadillac engine. The rear axle came from a Ford, and between that and the Cadillac transmission
Carash inserted a Columbia overdrive unit. Taking into account the gear ratios and
the rolling radius of the 7.00 x 16 tires, the theoretical top speed in overdrive was
estimated at 138 mph. A great deal of the work in constructing the car was done by
Carash himself. He had a professional shop do some of the body panels, be he bent
and welded his own bumpers (nerf bars in the parlance of the day). A
raked windshield offers some protection to the occupants, but this car is all about the
open air. The result of all the work was a nicely proportioned, skillfully finished
roadster, reminiscent of some of the open-wheeled Indianapolis 500 race cars of the late
40s and early 50s. The annual car show in Oakland, California was an
established event by the late 1940s. Bill Carash and some of his friends petitioned
the people in charge of the show for the chance to show their cars, and an area was set
aside for them. That Oakland Roadster Show evolved into the National Roadster Show,
and its now known as the Grand National Roadster Show. The Carash Custom was
shown there in 1950, and it took First Place for originality in the Street Division, and
third place in the Construction Street Division. On March
14, 1950 Mr. Wilbur Shaw, President of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Corporation paid
Bill Carash a tremendous compliment. Mr. Shaws wrote as follows: "Dear
Mr. Carash, You certainly have built a very unusual and beautiful automobile and I would
like nothing better than to be able to use it for a pace car. However, we are
committed entirely to American manufacturers and there just wouldnt ever be a
possibility of our getting it in as a pace car. Thank you very
much for your interest and a lot of good luck with it. |
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[ex-4220] | ? | 701530 | This former town car (one of only 9 built in 1930-31) was originally shipped to Buenos Aires, Argentina. Currently [2/2000] the motor is in Spain (near Alicante) and is powering a custom racer (below). The owner needs a V16 distributor cap. Any ideas? |
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[ex-4291] | ? | 702342 | This (British) Alvis racing car, located in Germany, is powered by the V-16 motor removed (ignominiously?) from a splendid 1930-31 Fleetwood-designed town car, style 4291, of which a mere 14 units were built. To me, this is tantamount to removing the engines of the Titanic to power a Mississippi steamboat! But, hey, at least the old dear is still serving the purpose for which it was designed, being to power an automobile. Thanks Chris Cummings for bringing the car to my attention. Here's the information Chris gleaned off the Internet about this "curio": Based around a 1939 Alvis Silver Crest chassis (the Coventry marque's lightest pre-WW2 design to feature independent transverse-leaf front suspension), 'HEH 856' had already been reconfigured as a Special by the time it entered the current ownership in 1996. Hankering after something more exciting (not to mention VSCC eligible), the vendor commissioned Edwards Motorsport of Warrington to fit a 1930 Cadillac V16 7.4 litre engine in place of the incumbent (non-original) Jaguar 4.2 litre unit. Sourced from the late John Willment's estate [I wonder if the engine was still in the original town car at the time], the American powerplant was thoroughly overhauled prior to installation (reground / re-whitemetalled / fully balanced crankshaft, new high compression pistons, reprofiled camshaft etc). Breathing via eight SU carburettors and developing some 280bhp and 410lbft of torque, it drives the back wheels via an Alvis Speed 25 four-speed all-synchromesh gearbox and 3.5:1 rear axle ratio (the latter taken from a Land Rover). Given a new tail-section by the renowned panel beater Peter Claridge, the two-seater also boasts a hydraulic clutch, 'Brooklands' style exhaust system and hydraulic 12-inch drum brakes. Riding on 19-inch wire wheels shod with Dunlop racing tyres (6.00-front / 7.00-rear), the self-starting 'HEH 856' has just passed a MOT test. One of many toys in the seller's collection, the Alvis-Cadillac ran at the VSCC's SeeRed Donington Park meeting some three years ago but has since seen little use. Intended for sprints, hillclimbs and occasional road trips, we are informed by Simon Blakeney-Edwards of Edwards Motorsport that the Special would benefit from an oil-cooler over longer journeys and ideally a longer steering drop arm. An intriguing and surely unique alternative to something like a Bentley 3/8, this wonderful Anglo-American hotrod is offered for sale with the aforementioned MOT certificate and VSCC buff form. Chris also got this mail from the vendor in Germany: Christopher, my car is an Alvis Special which had been used for hill climb racing in GB. I do not know the exact date when the V16 had been transplanted but it fits in and looks and sounds great. Actually I am working on two main issues: cooling and power generation. The cooling is poor due to the small air inlet in the front. This was no problem during hillclimb racing for a 2 km distance, but doesnt work for longer trips without additional electric fans. Therefore I would like to upgrade and restore the generator. But actually I'm not quite sure how to disassemble the generator without causing problems with the timing chain. Later, Chris was kind enough to give Franc the information he needed to remove the generator; he sent him a couple of images from the slide films that Cadillac sent the service people to illustrate that job. It was Chris also who found out the engine number as well as the Cadillac model in which it was originally mounted. |
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[???] | ? | ? | Here's another custom racer fitted with a Cadillac type 452-452A engine. It was recently acquired from a collector in California by my friend Dick Shappy of Rhode Island. I had got some pics of the car in May, 2011 but have not found time to upload them. |
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[???] | ? | ? | Here's another custom racer apparently fitted with a Cadillac V-16 engine. Details anyone ? |
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[???] | ? | ? | This red racer was offered for sale on Ebay in late 2004; it was said to be powered by a 16-cylinder Cadillac engine [the designer's drawing is marked "Cadillac V-16"]; apparently the car was sold but all attempts - by myself and other enthusiasts - to get precise information about the car and its power plant failed miserably. Perhaps the buyer might be interested in having his car listed in the roster. |
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